In response to janeAnne's post about What would you do if money were no object to build a dream green home, I had to expand to a full post.
Here is what I originally responded with in the comments of her post:
If money were no object... but taste was:
I know that there are more expensive technologies, but these could be incorporated into many current houses.
I followed up, answering questions with this comment:
janeAnne - I'm not a huge windmill in the neighborhood fan. I don't want to live under one, and I know that they will have a heavy NIMBY effect (Not In My BackYard).
On the other hand, active solar can be hidden in a house, no matter the style. I have heard of some roofing materials now that incorporate solar photo-voltaic cells and are almost indistinguishable from standard roofing.
Passive solar is an entire design philosophy, but things like sun-rooms and courtyards can be used to distribute air and light around the house. Overhangs can block heat during the summer, but allow solar heating in the winter.
Xeriscaping to save water... and make for a lower maintenance level... obvious choice. But, by using native plants, it can still be quite attractive. The overall landscaping can use little things like trees that block solar heat gain in the yard during the summer, but allow it during the winter. Blocking prevailing winds to allow the house to have a heat island is another option.
And, since I am a tool guy, what could be better than tools and technology turning things off and on, as well as optimizing everything to run more efficiently.
I had another response in the comments, but I'll refrain. So, without further ado, here is the expanded and explained list.
It should probably say active solar power generation and water heating, but... I didn't write that. However, in the summer, the greatest power use is on days with the most sun. So, having solar cells to create electricity to power A/C would just make sense. During the winter, the clear days are also usually the coldest, but instead of electric heat, why not use solar heat gain to heat water, and then circulate the water for radiant heat? The hot water could also be used to preheat the hot water for the house. A boiler running on natural gas could heat the water in place of or in addition to the solar heating.
Unlike the first suggestion, this would require incorporation into the design of the home. Passive solar is a great way to heat a property in the winter in sunny areas. The basics are mass and glass. The sun shining into the area is used to heat mass. After the sun goes down, the mass continues to radiate the heat back into the house. Stone, brick, water and other materials with a lot of mass help to smooth the temperatures out. Think of a house with a two story greenhouse on the south side. In the greenhouse, the mass is situated to allow solar heating during the day. As the sun sets, additional insulating material covers the windows to reduce heat loss. The warmth from the sun-room is moved around the house.
During the summer, the light is blocked during the day, and the area is allowed to cool at night. The cool mass will help to lower the temperature in the house during the day. Appropriate overhangs can block the summer sun, but let the winter sun shine in as well.
Simply put, this is landscaping to reduce additional water needs. Often through the use of native plants, less maintenance and water is used.
Most of us know that in a two story house, altering the HVAC vents from summer to winter will allow better distribution of air. Window treatments can be used as additional insulators. Operating heating, cooling and water heating systems only during times that they are being utilized also saves resources.
While none of these things are terribly difficult to accomplish, most of us don't fully utilize them because we don't think about it, or it isn't convenient. And, further efficiencies can be obtained from intelligent automation.
This has nothing to do with xeriscaping. Through using deciduous tress (with leaves that drop during the winter) the summer sun can be partially blocked from heating the home and yard, but during the winter, the rays of the sun will heat the home and yard. Shrubs and evergreens can be used to block winter winds that cool part of the exterior of the house. In warmer climates, using the right vegetation can reduce the heat island effect of driveways and sidewalks.
None of these things are huge, and all are possible right now for reasonable cost. I know that I didn't have to work with a budget, but oddly, I think that the biggest part of the benefits are available with simpler technologies. The exotic technologies may produce additional savings, but I don't think they are cost efficient... and in some cases I don't think they are attractive or practical.
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Lane, I like your ideas. "The exotic technologies may produce additional savings, but I don't think they are cost efficient... and in some cases I don't think they are attractive or practical." No matter what we are doing specially in building I think the KISS principle is best.
Lane:
Next thing I know you will be trying to tell me that houses have indoor plumbing! =]
I think one thing that is very obvious to me. is that almost all new homes are more energy efficient than old homes. I know this because I ask my clients about energy use. Some of the processes used to build homes in my area didn't exist even 20 years ago, and they make a big difference. Little things like wrapping the houses, and sealing all the gaps with silicon, seer 13 hvac units, all help to keep the cost down. I know that my last move was from a 2000 square ft home built in 1996, and the summer and winter energy bills were double what my new 3000 sq ft house is. I have to believe it's all due to new technology and building practices.
Some builders a more concerned than others about building enegy efficient homes, and thats something that we as realtors should help our clients understand.
Lane~
I've bookmarked this post. Thank you for the well-thought-out and informative description.I especially-like the sense I get from this post that incorporating nature and native plants into the overall design works for economy and beauty.
Dena - I just don't think that there is a market for $50,000 systems that will save $20,000 over their life unless they have some other advantage. Thanks for stopping by.
Jessica - Well not down in Griffin. But, up here in Atlanta, there are ALL sorts of fancy things going on.
Larry - And John Dingell would tell you that you are ecologically irresponsible for making that move...
janeAnne - Thank you for the kind words. And for the little hand grenade I left on my last comment, bio-diesel is the key to the answer...
You haven't posted tonight so...........
I strongly encourage you Mr. & Mrs. Buyer/Seller to see my friend Lane for all your real estate needs. Unless of course you are moving down to.....Just Kidding! Lane is a great agent and I highly recommend him!
Jessica - We were at the Thrasher's game tonight. I got my comments in. I was wondering where you have been again. It is tough for me to get all of my commenting done when you are being lazy...
Thanks for the kind words.
Hi Lane - I like your list!
You said, "I think that the biggest part of the benefits are available with simpler technologies. "
I agree with this. Much of this can be achieved without extra expense and by using simple technology. I love the solar application for radiant heat floors! That's good thinking and I know some in Michigan who are using the technology for that.
Also, you mentioned a boiler. When I think of a boiler system I have always envisioned one of those huge octupus' things you run across in older homes now and again. Today I visited a jobsite. This home will be probably in the neighborhood of 6000 sq ft. All the HVAC people recommended two systems. What they have put in is a 98% efficient boiler. I couldn't believe it. The boiler is no larger than a suitcase! They also have a HRV. I am waiting for a call from Steve from Oakwood Energy Management who is going to invite people out when they fire it up (after insulation is complete) and do some training on the system. I'm very interested in learning more about it.
Again, Thanks for the great list!
Mary - On one of the garage-centric forums I visit, there are a lot of guys running radiant heat in their garages. It does the job pretty efficiently. There are even a few that run a brine mixture and use it to heat the driveway and melt snow... no shoveling.
Good luck with the one you are going to visit.
Lane, I followed all your comments on janeAnne's post. I thought you would really do this up with some of the other things you talked about. Remember, money is no object. Your analysis of the environmental impact of lithium batteries was great. So where is your hydrogen generator?
Bill Roberts
Bill - So, are you saying that you wanted me to write a post outlining that MY dream house (green version) would be earth-sheltered, sunk into the side of a cliff, facing south to maximize passive solar heating, with a geo-thermal heat pump for auxiliary heating and cooling? Should I have mentioned that I would run a bio-diesel generator to allow the house to go all of the way off-grid? And, finally, Solar electrical generation for those bright sunny days.
Is that what you were looking for?
I would be tough to build the 10 car garage, but I might be able to tough it out with the $0 utility bills, low insurance (there would be NO storm damage)... I guess I could save up for the garage...
Congratulations on placing with an honorable mention with this post in the eco challenge!
Angie - Cool...