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New Funding for Centerpoint Condominiums in Tempe

Phoenix High Rise and Loft Condo Expert, Will Daly at www.WeKnowUrban.com: Real Estate Agent in Phoenix, AZ

We learned today from the most recent Bankruptcy Court case regarding Mortgages Limited Securities (MLS), that the private lender has slightly switched gears in terms of their new lender for Centerpoint. As of Friday, MLS announced a company called Stratera Portfolio Advisors will lend an immediate $4.9 million to help finish some highly time-sensitive issues with the Centerpoint towers. Today, MLS announced they have found a new hard-money lender, Mountain Funding, LLC. The primary reason for this move is because Mountain Funding is giving MLS better terms, including a lower interest rate.

With this new and potential better move for MLS, the Bankruptcy Judge postponed the hearing until Wednesday morning. Stay Tuned...

UPDATE: CENTERPOINT RECEIVES SHORT TERM FUNDING

09-04-08
Tom Tokoph
Tom Tokoph: Real Estate Brokerage in Tempe, AZ

The East Valley Tribune reported yesterday that the judge in the U.S. bankrupcy court has granted Avenue Communities partial payment of the 4.8M initial funding requested. The remaining portion will be reviewed for approval at a hearing scheduled for October 16th. This appears to be good news for the developer, Mortgages Ltd., and the City of Tempe since it theoretically places Centerpoint Condominiums back on track to complete construction of the $200M development.

Read the entire EV Tribune Article Here

Centerpoint Condos

New Plan for Centerpoint Condominiums in Tempe

Phoenix High Rise and Loft Condo Expert, Will Daly at www.WeKnowUrban.com: Real Estate Agent in Phoenix, AZ

There have been numerous newspaper articles reporting on the financial woes for Avenue Communities and its downtown Tempe high rise condo developement, Centerpoint.

What I have not understood is how can a project that has sold 20-25% of its condominiums over the last three years survive current market conditions AND the bankruptcy of its construction lender?

But I'm starting to understand. Here's my take on it:

The construction lender referenced above, Mortgages Limited, funded approximately $100 million of a $175 million loan. So they funded approximately $75 million less than the loan commitment stipulated. Then the company filed bankruptcy.

Avenue Communites is out looking for lenders to supply the $75 million so that it can complete construction of the building.

One can easily understand that a lender might be hesitant to loan $75 million on a $200 million project in today's market. However, what if the $75 million takes priority over the $100 million already spent? In other words the new lender would loan $75 million for assets valued at $200 million. That seems pretty safe even today doesn't it?

Apparently this is possible because the bankruptcy court can force the first lender (the $100 million lender) to subordinate to the next lender (meaning going from first position to second position) thus changing them from a first mortgage to a second mortgage if you will.

I guess the reason this is allowed is because it is better for the $100 million lender to be in a position if doing so is the only way to save the project. This way the lender as a chance to get something instead of all of nothing.

What I haven't understood is that if the project was originally projected to cost $200 million and profits were based on 2005 prices or higher and prices have gone down since 2005 then how can the project survive?

A case can easily be made that new construction high rise condo prices have gone down a minimum of 30% and maybe as much as 50% over the last three years. IF this is true then total sales could end up as low as $130 million (taking into account a 30% profit for the developer). So how does that work? Total sales of $130 million for a project that cost $200 million to build?

I'm guessing that the new lender, the one coming in with $75 million gets paid principal plus interest or $85 million, the original lender which ended up in second position gets paid $.30 for every dollar loaned or $30 million and then the developer gets the rest (about $15 million). But guess what? the project would be successful at these prices and survive!!! Granted the developer would not make as much profit as they had expected and the original lender would lose a ton of money but again, something is better than nothing. And of course, if I'm wrong about the value of high rise condos today and they actually sell for more then the developer and the second lender end up with more in their pockets.

And, Tempe and the Valley would see the completion of a fantastic urban community. One that would add significantly to the popularity and ultimate success of downtown Tempe.

NOTE: PLEASE KNOW THAT I AM TOTALLY PULLING THESE NUMBERS OUT OF THE AIR. I HAVE ZERO INSIDE INFORMATION. I AM PROBABLY WAY OFF ON THE VALUE OF THE FINISHED CONDOMINIUMS, THE DEVELOPER'S PROFIT, THE LENDER'S INTEREST AND THE AMOUNT THAT THE SECOND LENDER WOULD LOSE BUT AT LEAST THIS MAKES SOME SENSE. I WELCOME ANYONE TO PLEASE CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ARTICLE (LEAVE A COMMENT OR E-MAIL YOUR INPUT TO ME AND I'LL POST IT FOR YOU) ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE IN SUCH MATTERS.

We would love to see Centerpoint succeed and any dialogue that helps us better understand how that might be possible would be much appreciated.

Tempe's Centerpoint Condominiums Puzzle

Phoenix High Rise and Loft Condo Expert, Will Daly at www.WeKnowUrban.com: Real Estate Agent in Phoenix, AZ

Several articles have run recently regarding the financial challenges facing Centerpoint High Rise community in Tempe.

The gist of the articles suggest that all is fine with the development per Ken Losch, one of the principals of Avenue Communities, the developer of Centerpoint. In general, these kinds of articles don't really offer any kind of substantive information but are really more filler and background info.

However, we did glean something of value; at least we think we did. Rumors have been circulating that sales at Centerpoint are approximately 30%. The question was whether that was 30% of the first tower alone or 30% of the two high rise towers combined. We had suspected that it was 30% of the first tower only
and we now believe we have confirmation thanks to the East Valley Tribune article http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/120971.

In that article Losch is quoted as saying that they have sales of approximately $24 million. The article also confirmed that tower one has 171 units while the second tower has 204. Well, $24 million in sales would equal approximately 30% of 171 units. This is based on a very rough guestimate that works out as follows:

Take an average sales price of $500,000 (a total guess) and divide that into $24,000,000 to get 48 units. Divide 48 by 171 to get 28.07%. If we are wrong and the average sales price is higher then that would mean even fewer than 30% have sold. If the actual cost per unit is lower then the percentage of units sold would go up. We feel pretty safe using a number of $500,000.

If our numbers are right (and again please understand that we are guessing) and only 30% of the first tower has sold and zero condominiums have sold in the second tower then Avenue Communities has a looooong road ahead of them.

Now, please know that we are huge fans of Centerpoint and Ken Losch and we are totally rooting for the success of Centerpoint. We believe it is bringing a truly urban experience to the most urban city in the Valley, Tempe. However, we are certainly concerned.

UPDATE: Centerpoint Condominium Developer Interview

08-16-08
Tom Tokoph
Tom Tokoph: Real Estate Brokerage in Tempe, AZ

Centerpoint Condo

UPDATE: On Thursday, August 14, 2008 the East Valley Tribune interviewed the developer of the Centerpoint Condominiums, Ken Losch. This provides the Tempe community with a good update on the current status of this key development in the heart of Downtown Tempe.

CLICK HERE TO SEE VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH KEN LOSCH

CLICK HERE TO READ THE FULL TRIBUNE ARTICLE