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Just exactly what is "market value"?

I continually see descriptions in the MLS and on flyers for foreclosures about how the property is priced $70,000 below market value. What they usually  mean is that the property is priced $70,000 below what is owed on the property. What is owed on the property has absolutely nothing to do with current market value.

I've been a Realtor just since May 2005, and even I understand market value, and it's not what is currently owed to the mortgage lender. It's not even the listing price. In essence, it hasn't been determined yet, although some good comps can give us a fairly good idea. But the condition of the property will still weigh in against those comps.

I consider such "descriptions" to be misleading, especially so if one is working with a first-time home buyer, which I am.  These are not newbie Realtors doing this, either. They are very well-established Realtors. Of course, they could have a staff member writing descriptions for whom they are not proofing their work.

I have contacted a couple whom I knew, and they thanked me, but I cannot monitor the whole MLS and 22,000 agents myself -- LOL. Do brokers not teach their agents about misleading phrases and terms? Or maybe this involves the questions that they missed on the state real estate exam?

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Posted Monday Dec 01

Theres a big difference between assessed and market value like you say. I find that strange an experienced agent would confuse the 2. Regardless it doesnt matter what its "worth" other than what its worth to the person buying it.

My favorite are the auction infomercials:


This home starting bid (priced so ridiculously low that it is sure to at least double) and previously valued at (what someone paid for it in 2005 or 2006)


Drives me bonkers :)

Most Realtors training is not much more than taking the pre-licensing education and then their Realtor orientation.  That is about it. 


I like when a Realtor does "range pricing" between say $200,000 and $225,000.  Once the property has been for sale for 2 months, do they really think that any sane buyer will even offer the 200K let alone the 225K.  Come on now.

Hey, Rob. That drives me crazy, too. I work in the condo market in a very dense condo area of San Diego. I love it when a Realtor prices a $200,000 condo at a price range of $200,000 to $300,000. I kid you not. A $100,000 value range. Unbelievable. I can see, and often do, a $100,000 value range on million dollar properties, but a $200,000 condo? Yea, right.

( 12/01/08 02:24PM ) — Jubal Bynoe

Good information, thank you for the reminders!

Maybe they mean $70,000 under where the value was considered fair market value 2 years ago, LOL...

( 12/01/08 02:47PM ) — Boston Condo Guy

We often frame client conversations with the words "what are people saying yes to in the market right now" as a reasonable way to start talking about what a "fair" price is for a unit.  Sadly, (inappropriate) "market value" language has seemed to creep into the marketing and promotion lingo of agents.

( 12/01/08 04:05PM ) — David Ethridge

I've notice a lot of this too, Jim. $XX under market value usally seems to mean $XX under the market value of 2006!

( 12/02/08 12:59AM ) — ROBERT A.SWETZ (Vegas Bob)

Jim - I think it's just a sales pitch and some agents get themselves in trouble doing it.

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