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Mr. /Mrs. Loan Officer How Much Do I Qualify For?

Mr. /Mrs. Loan Officer How Much Do I Qualify For?

When shopping for a new home most people will go to their local bank ask to speak with a Loan Officer to ask how much will they qualify for on their first home Mortgage. Sadly, I have heard the following story to many times as a Mortgage Broker in South Florida (Palm Beach Gardens).

Last night while have dinner my phone rang from a past client who wanted to refer me a friend of his who was having problems with their Loan Officer at their local bank. The problem was he could not a get a straight answer from this person on whether or not he would qualify for a home loan. (Sound Familiar)

Let me get to the Readers Digest version. This Loan Officer at the bank handed the client a Good Faith Estimate and Truth-In-Lending page and that was it. The client asked if that meant he would qualify for the Mortgage. The Loan Officer informed him that because of current market conditions it would be difficult to get a high Loan-To-Value home loan. Please remember this is a first time home buyer and all he really wants to know if he can qualify for a mortgage. He could really care less about market conditions all he wants is a simple yes or no answer. So again this person asked "So What Does this Mean?" "Do I Qualify Yes or No?" Once again the Loan Officer said well she would do her best and wasn't sure.

This is where I get into the picture.

I asked the following questions to the client:

  • What was his FICO?
  • Was he the only one of the Loan?
  • How Much (Rough Estimate) was he looking to borrow?
  • What was his last two years income? (Sales Position)
  • What was his monthly outlay on credit cards and car loan?
  • How much money had he saved up?

Answers to my Questions:

  • 622
  • Yes
  • $200,000
  • $55,000
  • $1,200
  • $7,000

Now that I have more of his financial picture I understood what type of Loan the Loan Officer had given him on the Good Faith Estimate, it was an FHA loan. (In my opinion a very good choice) However, please keep in mind what the client's main goal was.

"How Much Do I Qualify For?"

While I was on the phone with him I told him let's go over the numbers or what the industry calls his DTI (Debt-to-Income)

Average Yearly Income was $55,000 or $4,583 a Month (Gross Before taxes)

I told the client that I like to use the 50% rule. To get a real firm approval we would have to sit down and choose the programs, rates, terms, etc... before we can lock this down. However, at this time his main goal was to just to get a rough idea of how much can he qualify for which in this case the 50% rule would at least give him a rough rule.

$4,583 Gross Monthly Income

-2,292 50% of his Gross income

$2,292

-1,200 (Credit Card Payments and Car Loan)

$1,092 Left to pay everything on the Home

Now I broke this down a further just to give the client what he was asking for (a Rough Idea on How Much he can Borrow).

On his Good Faith Estimate given to him from his Bank they had quoted him 7.25% (No Comment)

$200,000 @ 7.25% = $1,364

Taxes 2% Rule = $ 333

Insurance = $ 166

Mortgage Insurance= $__83

Total $1,946

This would make his total $1,946 + CC Payments $1,200 = $3,146 for his total Debt-debt-to-income: 69% Even if we had is rate at 6.25% his DTI would be 66%.

My suggestion is he is looking at to much house. Even if he had a co-borrower for the home he would still be house poor.

After going through all of these numbers for the client and his options he realized he had to pay down some of his Credit Cards if he was going to qualify for that much of a home loan or look for much less of a Home.

In the end the only question he had for me was why his Loan Officer at his Local Bank didn't explain this to him the way I had done. To answer his question I gave him my standard answer "That is what separates the True Mortgage Professionals"

*Note: The 50% rule is just a rough guide. The reality is the majority of the times most Lenders would like to see somewhere in the mid 40% range but for simple math I have found the 50% rule an easier way of going. Also in some cases I have seen the Lenders go up into the 60% range but in that case the clients had plenty of assets and an overall a very strong file.

In closing, when asking your Loan Officer how much you would qualify for on a home Mortgage and you feel you are getting the run around. Simply find another True Mortgage Professional who will take their time and answer ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

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Posted Friday Feb 01

Matt - Another rule I like to consider is the quality of life rule.  That is, just because on paper from a Lender's standpoint a borrower may qualify for such & such a payment....doesn't mean they will be comfortable laying their head down at night with having to make that payment.  You did a nice job of putting that rule into practice here, nice work.   Heck, I'd hire you any day of the week:-)

Honesty and straight forward - it truly makes you stand out from the rest - way to go - thanks for the break down

Jason, Great rule to follow as well. Thank you

Thesa, I agree honesty and straight forward is the way

Matthew, Thanks for laying the process out like you did.  This will help a lot of people.

(02/02/08 10:01AM) — Jay Beckingham

to me it's amazing that many potential buyers, who go to banks, don't come away with an idea what their monthly payment will be.

in my experience many/most buyers don't have any problems with the question;

have you thought about what you will feel comfortable with for a monthly payment.

for me this sets everyhting up, including, at times, a reality check about purchasing a home

Dan, Thank you .. It was my pleasure

Jay, Very true. In this case the LO gave the client a GFE and TIL and their was NO way he would of qualified for this loan.

(02/02/08 10:16AM) — Rich Sweum

True, usable pre-quals take more than 15 minutes.  When I know the people, their work history, of course it's easier, but as Mike on AR said, "He's a Full doc girl, originating in a full doc world." 

Pre-quals that stick really need to be done in full view of everything...that takes more than 15 minutes.  More time when considering what options would best meet their goals.

Good Post Matt!

Rich, Thank you.

Matt,

Nice post. I guess the LO at the bank really doesn't need any business  LOL. This borrower is obviously looking at way too much house for their situation...it's best to find out early in the game instead of being disappointed after they find their dream house.  Plus, they barely have enough $$ for closing costs and some reserves, let alone a down payment.

 I also like to use Jay's tactic...how much would you feel comfortable paying monthly?

(02/03/08 10:41PM) — Robert Monk Florida Real Estate

The Superbowl football game was terrific, hope you enjoyed it! 

Cheryl, Thank you. I guess this week she is the LO last week she was the teller and who knows what she will be next week..lol

Robert, I really did.  Funny I don't see so many posts for New England today.. ha ha

Straight forward and to the point with no punches pulled.  Thats my philosophy.  I tell my clients that I am not a mortgage professional that will tell you what you want to hear.  I am going to tell you the facts and if the facts arent what you are looking for then I will help you and guide you to get you where you want to be if at all possible. 

Borrowers appreciate honesty even if its bad news.  In the long run it's better for them and for you as a professional.  They will always remember that you were the one that was a "straight shooter."

Great job Matt!!

(02/04/08 05:18PM) — Joe Adams

I like to ask my clients if they have established a budget.  Yours and Jason's rules work, but the client needs to work out a budget.  Another thing I like to do is ask them to be honest and tell me how mush they think they can afford.  Then show them what 600 bucks a month buys.

(02/04/08 06:06PM) — Dan Hartman

Great post, Matthew.  The biggest part of our job is to educate consumers on the important things they must know, rather than just taking orders.  That's why the most dangerous questions they can ask is "What's your rate?"

Dan

nice post Matt.....    by the way - i am finding a first time home buyer with decent credit can get 100% financing as easy as ever........   

Charles, I agree with you be upfront. I always tell people I don't get paid to take applications. I get paid when their file closes.

Joe, Very true they really need to know how much they can afford a month.

Dan, You are so right. The rate question is not as important as what is my total payment. p,i,t,i, and maybe MI

Lewis, Thank you. You can still find it but in Florida since we are labeled a declining market it is very difficult for that 100% program.

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