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Can anyone please tell me what this person is sitting on and where these rocks might be located?
These rocks are some of the strangest rock formations I have ever seen and when I came across them I had to really take a close look at them. These rock formations are millions of years old and it looks like this person in the photographs is either meditating or trying to capture the energy from them.
The first photograph is towards the bottom of the rocks and the photo below is the very tops of the rocks. What are these strange rocks?
And where do you think there located?
I will reveal the answer later Wed. evening 10-28-2009
If you look real close at the photograph above most of the rock patches have 5 sides to them and this is all natural, the lines were not cut into the rocks.
Post and Pic by Robert Swetz (Vegas Bob)
www.RealEstateNationwideListings.com
http://DarksideofDavid.ning.com
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Anyone interested in purchasing some acreage to build a Summer home, retirement home, etc ............
I came across the unbelievable area around Mammoth Lakes California and fell in love with it right away. Who wouldn't enjoy such a beautiful back drop as what is shown in the photo (above).
If there is anyone interested in this type of property please feel free to contact me any time.
Post & Pic by Robert Swetz (Vegas Bob)
www.RealEstateNationwideListings.com
http://DarksideofDavid.ning.com
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The Mammoth REO rodeo continues to ebb and flow. Sometimes we feel on top of things and other times we feel a little buried. My mantra of “expect the unexpected” is worth repeating for buyers, brokers, and casual observers too. The foremost wild card in the mix remains the asset managers who are handling the bank’s portfolios. Not only are they running the show but they are also mired in “policy” that is sometimes arbitrary or unexplainable and may or may not be followed. They’re watching their own performance levels, especially close to the end of the month. And don’t think they aren’t focused on where they plan to cocktail and chill for the weekend. Meanwhile, buyers are chasing these bank owned properties, and they too, based on their behavior, are a cast of characters.
The national media is full of stories about banks delaying the foreclosure process on delinquent borrowers. Some of that may be true and beneficial to the stabilizing some markets, but the beginning-to-end process for just one property is labor intensive and involves all sorts of “specialists.” And even in this electronic age the pile of paperwork is enormous. All the digital files including time and date stamped photos of everything and the scanned multiple offers (and their addendums) have got to be clogging up the web somewhere. And there is no consistency whatsoever. Nobody does anything the same way. Some properties can be turned over from foreclosure to on-the-market in just a few days, while others take months and months. (Some of that is due to bitter and belligerent previous owners.)
“How long is this going to last?” is becoming a question I hear daily. Serious buyers are weighing the deals of today against the possibility of lower prices tomorrow driven by additional foreclosures. I can only respond, “Who knows?” But the facts are this: First, there will be more foreclosures. The pipeline is continually moving properties of all sorts, from 70’s built dumpy one-bedroom condos to new or near new luxury homes and condos. There is no indication of any slowing of properties entering the pipeline. An equal number of properties are exiting the pipeline (via sale). It ebbs and flows, but it all remains fairly consistent. The second fact: We’re finding price support in almost all segments of the market. And much of the price support is at 50 to 60% off of the peak of the market. Now, buyers shouldn’t try to apply any strict rules here because every segment is a little different. And every property scenario is different. Some segments are actually seeing multiple offers and prices bid up.
So at what price levels is this support? The most impressive price support is in the condo market between $250K and $350K. Typically the classic early 80’s built townhomes––properties with more than one sleeping area, most of the projects and Associations are in respectable financial and physical shape, units usable by families in all seasons and rentable for some modest returns. But the non bank-owned inventory in this segment is thin too. The other impressive segment is the $2M home. Most of these were $4-5M in the heyday. The buyers for these have cash, and currently there are more of these potential buyers coming out of the woodwork and availability is scarce. The bank owned properties have also helped the local market find the bottom of the single-family home market––about $470K and up. Absent of any serious defects, this is a consistent price support level. And as for those 70’s built one-bedroom condos, about $100K, give or take.
The condo-hotel properties remain a challenging segment of the market. The buyers are predominantly cash buyers with a few of the big down/high interest rate types getting loans. But there are buyers. Most of these are selling at 60% off of the peak. And the pipeline is seeing more of these units coming. There are Westin Monache units that closed less than two years ago in the pipeline. Today, it is not unusual for owners to go 12 months or more without making payments before anybody even notices. So how many of these will end up in default is anybody’s guesstimate. The developer continues to try to unload units before it gets any worse. Meanwhile, the coming foreclosures in the balance of the Village and Juniper Springs will probably be good buying opportunities.
The buyers for these bank-owned properties are coming in all flavors. Many are new season pass MVP holders (New Woolys?). Many are cash buyers and their all-cash offers are looked upon more favorably by the asset managers. After all, there is no loan contingency or appraisal contingency (usually not an issue) and most all-cash buyers can close more quickly. And we’re seeing an increasing amount of “cash bullies” in the market. The cash bully typically lets you (and everybody else) know he has cash. They also expect their cash to get them really huge discounts, but it doesn’t. We see many low cash offers beaten out by qualified buyers with higher offers. Typically banks and investors aren’t ready to jump on low offers in the first 30-60 days. So cash bullies get lots of disappointment, but most like attention more than the buying.
Other buyers looking to low-ball bank owned properties are experiencing what is known as “the market educating them.” After losing out two or three times on popular properties they learn that making offers at 20-30% less than asking isn’t going to cut it. For a while we had an out-of-town broker who made the same $100K all-cash offer on every REO that came to the market. I’m still not sure if he was just a bully or became educated. Ultimately, the time to consider making a lowball offer is after a property has sat on the market for 90 days or more, but in this market these aren’t the properties most buyers are looking for.
Many negotiations are ending up in a “give us your highest and best” response from the asset manager. Potential buyers respond in many ways. Some just stay with their original offer, some go a thousand more, others go ten thousand more. And then there’s always the “I would have gone higher” response from a buyer who lost out. We’ve even had mad buyers who lost out insist that we give them the name and phone number of the asset manager so they can re-enter negotiations. (Not going to happen, it violates the confidentiality agreement we have with them and it is a sure way we will never to do business with them again.)
The buyer, and his strategy, who “wins” the negotiation is not always the same. This is where the asset manager wildcard plays out. Sometimes it is a horse race––the first one in with a reasonable offer. Sometimes it is a simple bidding war, but the clock still ticks. Sometimes the buyer and buyer’s agent who are the nicest (and follow the instructions) get the deal. Lately, we are seeing more properties priced aggressively but with “cooling off periods” of five to ten days, meaning the seller won’t respond until the property has had significant exposure to the market. But buyers can’t assume they should wait, we’ve seen asset managers accept an offer during the cooling off period. (Again, expect the unexpected.)
Then there is the buyer (or their agent) who actually does get to escrow and doesn’t under the concept of “as-is, where-is” in an REO transaction. Asset managers don’t like nit-picking buyers. They like buyers who move towards closing. Oh, there are rare instances when they will approve some repairs, but again it can really depend on arbitrary variables. And most times buyers just acquiesce anyway.
The latest scam in the REO industry (not Mammoth) are crooks taking the photos and details from a bank-owned listing on the Internet and posting them on Craigslist as an available rental. Potential tenants are forwarding fees and deposits only to find out they’ve been scammed. I wonder how long before this starts happening in Mammoth. Think about it, anybody could take the photos and descriptions off any listing and rent the property to unsuspecting vacationers. Talk about expecting the unexpected. So much for happy holidays.
Okay, so what is the current take-away from the present Mammoth real estate market and foreclosed properties? Buyers are buying and getting great deals relative to just a few years ago. The bank-owned properties are some of the best deals and are definitely setting the pace of the market, especially in the sub-$400K condo market and a handful of high-end homes. Buyers looking to buy will be rewarded with patience and persistence. Right now the demand is solid and consistent. But we need to move through the holiday and post-holiday (decompression) period. That is historically a slower sales periods in this market. Somewhere in spring we’ll have a better idea of how firm the market is. I’m thinking this interim period will be a good time to pay attention. A little luck and good timing never hurt a real estate transaction. And coming to look at a few new listings is the perfect excuse to get in a couple of days of skiing. Who knows, you might even get the unexpected perfect ski day.<!--EndFragment-->
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Nuture Your "Children"
Do you take care of your "children"?
You may never have thought of your dreams as children, but that's what they are.
They are offspring - the joy of your today and the hope of your future.
Protect them.
Feed them.
Nurture them. Encourage them to grow. Care for them. For someday, they may take care of you.
Cherish your visions
and your dreams as they are the children of your soul; the blueprints of your ultimate achievements.
- NAPOLEON HILL -
This photograph was taken in the (wild) not a farm in Mono County California by: Robert Swetz
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Some things just torture me. And a recent article in the Mammoth Times about a new business for sale just irked me. I just really have to ask myself how this came about? This was a gross disservice to these owners and potential sellers. What were the editors thinking? I’m criticized for being candid to a fault, but this was abusive. And where was the broker who represents them? Why didn’t he take control? In a small town, this is almost irresponsible journalism. In the era of Wally Hofmann this article would have been re-written because the flaws so glaring.
Every couple of years the subject of business and businesses for sale in mammoth is a worthy topic for a column. I’ve had my share of business listings over the years and thankfully my professional insurance (known as Errors & Omissions) now prohibits me from listing them unless there is real estate involved. That makes me happy for my sake, and the sake of my associates. Quite frankly, small business listings are a pain in the ass for many reasons. But trying to help someone who is miserable is an honorable duty, at least for the first year.
So now to the subject. A couple of weeks ago the aforementioned publication runs an article about a new business for sale. I had seen the sign in the window and received a flyer from the broker (who isn’t a member of the local MLS). The event was no surprise and actually quite predictable. How many times have I seen this before and eventually been part of it? But here comes the obligatory press release in the local paper. The seller boldly announces, “I’ve had enough” immediately after the who, what, when and where paragraph. Reminds me of Roberto Duran uttering “no mas” in the boxing ring with Sugar Ray. The beating has obviously been had.
Now I can just imagine marketing a piece of property for one of my sellers this way. For Sale, this nice 3 bedroom and 2 bath home. The seller has “had enough” of frozen and broken pipes, the leaking roof and the bear invasions. But you Mr. Buyer should take great interest in it, and in fact should grossly overpay for it.
The article says the current owners hope the new owners (by-the-way, hope is not a good business strategy) keep the business “much as it is.”
“We’re going to encourage whomever buys it to not really change it. Because it’s not broken, it doesn’t need fixing…” Damn, I’m going to use that strategy with my buyers. Look Mr. Buyer, the current owner has “had enough” with all the problems but you should buy the property, and even better, you really shouldn’t even bother fixing any of these concerns because you can live with it until you’ve “had enough.”
The article goes even further to extol the features and benefits of owning this business: “In the past…she has been challenged in finding employees who are willing to work, and thus has experienced frustrating turnover…and quote ‘they don’t want to work for their paycheck.’”
And even more appealing, everyone was recently laid off because there is no money to “pay employee salaries and pay the lease, the utilities, taxes, worker’s compensation, the liability––all the things that go with owning a business.”
Further the owner states that these aren’t the real reason for wanting to sell, it’s now about “restructuring her life to create more free time and not work six or seven days a week.” Wow, these are just more great selling points. I’m surprised there isn’t a long line of ready, willing, and able buyers just fighting with one another to buy this business.
I feel really bad for these owners/sellers. The Mammoth Times really kicked them to the gutter. Hopefully the article is not online where some potential buyer gets a look at it. This is not the way to start the marketing campaign. The article is a classic WTF moment. Did anybody have a clue here? I wonder if anybody thought it was a good idea to make re-prints of the article for marketing purposes? I hope not. Time, and the market, will speak to whether there is a buyer and at what price––and how motivated the seller becomes to walk away. After all, she’s “had enough.” When I first moved to Mammoth I was told there was an 11th Commandment in Mammoth: Don’t Set Yourself Up For Disappointment. True for life in general, but a very important one when trying to sell a business.
Sometimes I’ve had to tell people their business has no value, or close to no value. In the early 90’s I marketed a very popular restaurant here in Mammoth and after enough time and effort the seller settled for a price around the cost of a new Honda Accord. The buyer changed the whole concept and became a seller just two years later and eventually just folded. There isn’t even a restaurant in that lease space today. In 2003 I was fired from the listing of a famous sports bar. I was telling the owner the asking price was far too high. He told me that he needed another broker, one “who could think outside the box.” The for sale sign is still out in front and I’m reminded every day when I drive by. And over 20 years ago I had a firewood company listed for sale. The work was too hard according to the owner. Well, now the company is bigger than ever and he’s married to one of my real estate competitors.
I hate to tell these new “sellers” of Mammoth Times infamy that just because they put the for sale sign in the window doesn’t mean there is a buyer, and definitely not with such a great marketing strategy. I think somebody has given them false hope. My bet is that if someone were looking, they simply plan to negotiate with the landlord. They’re called vultures, and vultures don’t pay for blue sky.
As a sidebar, recent property tax appeal hearings here in Mono County have highlighted the taxing cost of improvements, especially interior improvements, on a business. These can impact both owner occupied and leasehold properties. These taxes can rapidly erode a profit margin and few business owners consider them in a business planning. For example, one restaurant and bar in the Village has almost two million dollars in interior improvements. The personal property tax on those improvements runs about $1500 per month. That is above and beyond rent, common area charges, utilities, etc. My junky old office furniture that depreciated out years ago looks better all the time.
The precipitation of the last 36 hours here in Mammoth bodes for a wonderful winter ahead. So when you come to Mammoth this winter, please spend a little money in town at your favorite spot. It will be a small insurance payment that it will still be business the next time you come to town. Now back to business.<!--EndFragment-->
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