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A few weeks ago I was at the county Foreclosure auction in Deland, our Volusia County seat. Deland is a nice quaint small town, home to Stetson University, and numerous local government offices.
A condo-hotel unit in Harbour Beach Resort in Daytona Beach was scheduled for the auction, and I was curious to see what happens to it, along with a few other properties to be sold at the auction.
We waited until they announce the priced up to which the Lenders were going to bid, otherwise known as the lowest the Lender would accept. The condo-hotel unit was not discounted and the lender was asking for about $35K (I do not remember the exact amount). We thought that nobody would be bidding on it, as the lowest price you could by a unit there now was $27K, but with no view. Still, for the auction that was not a bargain.
But we were wrong. A gentleman offered one dollar on top of the minimum set by the Lender, of course there were no other bidders and he got it.
I knew the prices in this condo-hotel, and though this was a nice unit, it was coming too expensive at $35K. I knew that Harbour Beach Resort has just completed concrete restoration, and if the Seller has not paid, that, together with any other unpaid maintenance fees, would become the liability of a buyer.
But the Buyer did not look clueless. He was the type of a man, that can do pretty much everything, those who were not afraid of rolling the sleeves.
I came up to the Buyer after the auction and asked him whether he owned other units in the resort. I was right, he had other units, and was hunting specifically this unit. He knew the prices in t he building and he was not deterred by paying relatively high. I asked him whether he knew of unpaid Association fee and assessments, and yes, he knew, he even had a printout. He would have to shell out about $21K on top of the purchase price (plus the doc stamps and court costs). So, he was buying a unit for $56K.
I could get you a unit in similar or better properties for less. And I told him that. It was not a surprise for him. And still he wanted this one. Intrigued, I asked him why.
Well, as I thought, he has another condo-hotel unit in Harbour Beach Resort. He fixes it very nicely and then he rents it himself. How is it going for him? Well, last year he had it vacant only 4 weeks. So, he had it rented 48 weeks at $549 at slow time. This is a great occupancy, and no hotel on the Beach can brag they can do it. His maintenance and taxes are about $4K-$4.5K, so he is getting rather good return on his investment.
It is not only the price, it is also the experience and knowledge. I am getting my clients better deals in terms of purchase price. But he is getting way better rentals. Sometimes I am surprise how people get attached to investment property.
Why would anyone in their sound mind hunt units in Harbour Beach Resort? No front desk, a property with a feel of the 70s and 80s… But really knowing what he could do there made it his niche, and he really makes it work for him. Even at $56K, that the unit would finally have cost him.
My hat is off to you, sir
If you in the market for a good deal, call me 386.405.4408
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When I walked into the lobby of Harbour Beach Resort, a Daytona Beach oceanfront condo-hotel, yesterday to see how they were doing, I could not even imagine that I would end up kicked off the property.
I saw that th
e sign “Atlantic Shores Management”, the manager was there, I did not meet this lady before, so I decided to introduce myself.
I actually did not need the manager to see that the balconies were fixed and aluminum railing installed. I have photos of before, and while they were doing it. I just came to say ‘Hi’… I told her that I was a broker and that I specialized in condo-hotels and that I was blogging about them on the Internet. She became immediately very tense and said she would need the approval of the Board of Directors of the condoowners association to to give me information. I told her I was not going to ask her any specific questions that would warrant getting permission from the Board.
She became offensive and told me to leave, and I walked out, and she ran after me and started talking again. It was quite funny, that she would ask me a question, but then would not let me even answer and scream “get out”.
If I were a potential buyer, and walked in and had such a ‘friendly’ reception, wouldn’t it be negativity at its best? Would I buy there? But here’s the problem.
I write how I feel. So, do you really expect me to tell people that this is a great place?
Well, is it? Let’s see…
I checked Trip Advisor to see what people thought of Harbour Beach Resort.
52 reviews total. 52% of these 52 travelers did not recommend this resort.
So, do I feel negative about the resort? Hmm, 50/50 (remember, it is Trip Advisor’s opinion).
If you are in the market for a unit in a condo-hotel, I would not suggest that you buy in Harbour Beach Resort. Not because of the manager, of course...
There are a few condo-hotels in greater Daytona area, which I can show you and which, in my opinion, make way more sense… and nobody yells at you, which is a bonus...
Call me at 386-405-4408
* Image courtesy of Jarosław Pocztarski via Flickr.com
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It was time for me to pay a visit to Harbour Beach Resort, a Daytona Beach oceanfront Condo-Hotel, as I have not been there for quite some time, and last time I was there, they were in the process of remodeling, or better say, concrete restoration, a major and costly repair, which all oceanfront buildings in the area have to go through after 30-40 years.

It involves replacing balconies. Because to do that they need to go inside 18", and for that they have to take out the glass wall with a sliding door, owners usually replace them with new ones, which are up to new codes and are hurricane proof.
This is a 165-unit oceanfront eight story condo-hotel in the heart of Daytona Beach. The majority of units are direct oceanfront studios, some mini-suits and deluxe suites. Units are equipped with 2 burner stoves, microwaves, refrigerators.
Units from 1 through 14 are direct oceanfront with balconies, unit 15 is corner unit without a balcony, units 16-19 face north east (terrific views of the park and the ocean), and units 20-21 are city view.
The good news is that restoration has been completed and the resort is operational. I was tempted to say ‘fully" operational, but that would not be quite true. They did not have much luck with hotel (rental) management companies and for several years now they are not offering any real Front Desk operations, and rentals are practically non-existent. Owners rent on their own or through different agents.
In my personal opinion it is detrimental for condo-hotels. When choosing what to buy, the resort with a strong hotel management is preferable, as this is a key criterion, which is as important as the price.
There are 5 units for sale at this time in Harbour Beach Resort starting at $35,000 and to $48,000 (Doesn't it feel like we are missing a 0 here?). None of those are direct oceanfront. 3 units face the city and two are corner units without a balcony. They have a great view of the ocean, though.
From January 1, 2009 there were 4 units sold in Harbour Beach Resort from $21,900 for a city view studio to $59,000 for a one-bedroom direct oceanfront unit. The numbers are pretty much in line with the market trends in Daytona Beach area.
If you are looking for condo-hotels or condos, homes and townhomes in greater Daytona Area, give me a call at 386-405-4408

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Harbour Beach Resort, 701 South Atlantic Ave, Daytona Beach, FL 32118
Built in 1975, the Resort had seen better days. Until 5 years ago we considered it a nicer property and liked to bring our customers there. Then the property started slowly deteriorating, management and maintenance going down the hill.
They did not have luck with the management company, three companies within the last 4 years made a big dent in trust between the onwers and the management. The Board failed to set the goals to preserve the and increase the rentals. It is just mind boggling what can people do to diminish the value of the property for the owners. No decent rentals, the whole front desk is missing...
Last year the resort started serious work on replacing concrete balconies. They also are replacing the windows and sliding doors to those heavy hurricane resistant one that are meeting the codes. Not only they are hurricane resistant, they are double pane and this adds a lot of sound and temperature insulation. The North side has been completed. The main part of the building will start now, and it wil take 12 to 18 months to complete. During this time the pool will not be in operation, according to staff.
There are 9 unit for sale as of June 7, 2008. Prices start from from $69,000 for a street view unit, $92,500 for an oceanfront studio and all the way to $159,900 for a tiny 483 sf one bedroom.
No sales since 2006. It is a bit paradoxical: no sales for 2 years, but prices are high. Go figure.
If interested in inexpensive alternative to oceanfront vacation property, call us 386-255-5355
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Jon Zolsky, your Daytona Beach connection
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