The best page on Facebook in my opinion is Westchester is Not Upstate You Idiot. This is one of those friendly arguments people in Westchester and the Hudson Valley get into with people when we get to college and meet Long Island and New York City types for the first time in the dorm.
It goes something like this:
Me: You're from New York also? What part?
Him: Massapequa.
Me: Where is that?
Him: LawngGiland. Whehr you from?
Me: Ossining.
Him: Oh, Yawr from UPstate.
Me: Upstate?
Guy from Rochester, overhearing conversation: I'm from upstate. Western New York, really.
Us: Isn't that near Canada?
Guy from Rochester: Well T'rahnto is across the lake. You can almost see it it when you go there to get hamburgs and a pop.
It really goes downhill when a guy from Boston walks by, returning from a 2pm shower dressed in just a towel.
I had similar discussions with my wife, who is from Queens. She regarded anything north of the Bronx as Upstate. She later amended that to anything north of Yonkers, which I consider a moral victory. Westchester may be up the state from NYC and Long Island, but it isn't upstate. Upstate is Albany. Upstate is Ithaca. Upstate is Syracuse. In general, if people in your town can feasibly commute to New York City, you really aren't in upstate New York. Poughkeepsie, for instance is on the Metro North Hudson Line. I don't even consider Poughkeepsie upstate by that metric, but since I don't live there I don't care. I think that upstate starts more or less at the Catskills. More broadly, if you are in the 914 or 845 area code, you are downstate from upstate. It gets tiring.
Downstate is another post altogether. When I lived in Rochester, where people sound more like they are from Cleveland, Ohio than the Empire State, I was told I didn't talk like I was from downstate. I guess upstate people think that downstate people should sound like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.
Rockland, which borders New Jersey, is not Upstate. Westchester County folk do not consider themselves Upstate either, which I think is a requirement for qualifying. I'm fairly certain that residents of Saratoga would tell you they are upstate. This much is true for sure: Westchester, which borders the Bronx, is NOT upstate New York. Anyone who disagrees is overly downstatecentric.
This is my version of the Facebook group's picture, which was too small for this posting.
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J. Philip Serves Briarcliff Manor, Ossining, Croton on Hudson, Pleasantville, Sleepy Hollow, White Plains, Yonkers, Peekskill, Cortlandt, Tarrytown, Yorktown, Montrose, Hawthorne, Thornwood, Valhalla, Hartsdale & all of Westchester County, New York.
Overlooking the Hudson River, Peekskill is the only city of all the municipalities in northern Westchester County. When I was growing up it was where you went to do to the Department of Motor Vehicles office and little else. Today it has a far more vibrant downtown with art galleries, cafes and shopping of all kinds. And the DMV is still there.
I started my company in 2005, and the company's first closing was on a home in Peeksksill. I remain in touch with my clients. They have done great things to that house. Like many Manhattan dwellers, Peekskill appealed for the nearby Hudson Line train terminal, the vast array of pre war architecture, Hudson River views and the relatively affordable prices compared to much of Westchester. I continue to do business there.
How has the market in Peekskill fared with the declining housing market? According the to data I have from the Westchester-Putnam Multiple Listing Service comparing the first quarter of 2008 for single home sales to quarter 1 of 2009, Peekskill's market is relatively stable.
| Year | # Sales | Average Price | Median Price |
| 2008 | 16 | $ 355,378.00 | $ 340,025.00 |
| 2009 | 17 |
$ 297,959.00 |
$ 280,000.00 |
Prices were down about 16% but the transaction total was actually higher in 2009 than 2008 by one for single family homes. There are 69 single family homes actively available for sale in the city. 6 are under contract or pending sale; that is a low number, but at this rate the city has about a year's worth of inventory on the books. Not bad.
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You can search the MLS like an agent at http://jphilip.listingbook.com.
J. Philip Faranda ranks among New York's premier short sale REALTORS specializing in short sales in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam & Dutchess Counties. www.NYShortSaleTeam.com. Read Phil's short sale blog at http://NewYorkShortSaleBlog.wordpress.com.
J. Philip Serves Briarcliff Manor, Ossining, Croton on Hudson, Pleasantville, Sleepy Hollow, White Plains, Yonkers, Peekskill, Cortlandt, Tarrytown, Yorktown, Montrose, Hawthorne, Thornwood, Valhalla, Hartsdale & all of Westchester County, New York.
One of the things I have heard in certain precincts is that while the overall market might be bad, some places are insulated from the bad economy and will continue to have a thriving market. One of the places mentioned is nearby Chappaqua, NY. Chappaqua is known for being the adopted home of the Clintons, but it is more than just that. It is a lovely hamlet with manageable proximity to Manhattan (on the Metro North Harlem Train Line & 45 minutes to Grand Central), beautiful homes on large lots, a highly regarded school district, and a charming downtown. So how did Chappaqua's 1st quarter of 2009 compare with the first quarter of 2008?
Not very well, I am afraid. The following is the MLS data for single family home sales in the entire Chappaqua school district, which includes part of the Mount Kisco mailing address:
| Year | # Sales | Average Price | Median Price |
| 2008 | 20 | $1,068,620.00 | $ 873,350.00 |
| 2009 | 4 | $ 842,375.00 | $ 835,000.00 |
The 21% drop in average price is not particularly shocking; prices are down everywhere. The real eye-opener for me is the severe drop in transaction totals. Even with lower prices, people held onto their wallets.
Here's the real sobering part. As I type this, there are 133 active single-family listings for sale in the Chappaqua School District. 8 more are under conditional contract and 5 are pending sale. Presuming that none of those deals fall through and all 13 sales close in the 2nd quarter of 2009, that will make 17 closings for the first half of 2009 (a few more contracts might be signed and close in the 2nd quarter-I hope). At that rate, there is just under 3/12 years of inventory for sale in Chappaqua.
Clearly, no place is immune to the economic woes we are experiencing. Let's hope that things heat up for the 9 real estate brokerage companies that serve Chappaqua. 4 sales in a quarter is tough to split among literally hundreds of agents. This is another reason why I am thankful that my market is not one zip code or town. I have sold 2 homes in Chappaqua in the not-too-distant past and expect to sell more, but I would never hang my hat on just one town.
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You can search the MLS like an agent at http://jphilip.listingbook.com.
J. Philip Faranda ranks among New York's premier short sale REALTORS specializing in short sales in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam & Dutchess Counties. www.NYShortSaleTeam.com. Read Phil's short sale blog at http://NewYorkShortSaleBlog.wordpress.com.
J. Philip Serves Briarcliff Manor, Ossining, Croton on Hudson, Pleasantville, Sleepy Hollow, White Plains, Yonkers, Peekskill, Cortlandt, Tarrytown, Yorktown, Montrose, Hawthorne, Thornwood, Valhalla, Hartsdale & all of Westchester County, New York.
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You can search the MLS like an agent at http://jphilip.listingbook.com.
J. Philip Faranda ranks among New York's premier short sale REALTORS specializing in short sales in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam & Dutchess Counties. www.NYShortSaleTeam.com. Read Phil's short sale blog at http://NewYorkShortSaleBlog.wordpress.com.
J. Philip Serves Briarcliff Manor, Ossining, Croton on Hudson, Pleasantville, Sleepy Hollow, White Plains, Yonkers, Peekskill, Cortlandt, Tarrytown, Yorktown, Montrose, Hawthorne, Thornwood, Valhalla, Hartsdale & all of Westchester County, New York.
I am a proud member of the Villanova class of 1989. Few places can turn a New York-born, Giant and Yankee rooting, Eagle and 76er hating guy like me into a dedicated cheesesteak muncher like that rolling campus on the Main Line. I was on pins and needles yesterday watching that game. It was vintage Wildcat teamwork: no superstar, stingy defense, and smiles at the end.
The best my era's teams did was advance to the final 8 in my junior year. The campus went bananas after they beat Illinois to advance to the Sweet 16. I'll never forget it. They won the whole thing in an upset for the ages in 1985, the year right before I attended. I was a senior in high school here in New York, so I was rooting for St. John's. When I arrived on campus that autumn as a freshman, the place was electric.
If my Facebook page is any indication, my fellow alumni are just as happy as the kids on campus.
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