Tricks to Refinancing your home...even if you dont qualify!
Many people are taking advantage of refinancing! I mean this is history right now with lowest rates in decades! But what about those who are in their home and aren't sure if they qualify? Here are the tricks to refinancing.
1. Where do I get the best rates?
You can shop around! However, it is confusing as some people say they will give you no costs. I know one person that told me, I got the greatest deal with no costs but his interest rate was pretty high. Don't fall for no costs. Be sure to compare APR's as those will include costs. The best place we have found closing costs and rates have been local mortgage broker. Tim Peterson tim@rightsidelending.com or Sandy Lowe sandy@silverrm.com
2. What do I ask for to compare costs?
Ask for a Good Faith Estimate. This is a standard form that everyone should give you that includes your rate and all costs. You can look at all the closing costs and the interest rate on this. There is a rate called an APR...this is not your interest rate but is calculated to show you what all your costs are including your interest rate and closing costs.
3. How do lenders get paid?
Lenders get paid according to your interest rate. They also get paid according to the costs they charge you. For instance, if a lender is giving you a 5% rate..they may be getting paid 1 point in the back. (A point is 1 percent of the loan.) If they give you 4.5% they may have to pay the lender money to help you get that rate. If they are charging you 6%, they may be getting paid 2 points. Any fees on the estimate that show they are paying the broker is also what they get paid. Many times this will be an origination fee and a processing fee. There are processing fees that go to wholesalers that the lender cant change.
4. What if I can't qualify?
If you can't qualify call the lender who you have your home's mortgage with now. Many self employed people will need to do this as well. Every lender is different. My current mortgage lender was willing to refi my house with no closing costs and I didnt have to do the entire verification process. Some lenders of mine in the past just sent me a paper in the mail to sign. Don't give up if you don't think you can qualify. Call your lender and see what they can do for you.
Home not selling? You are thinking of renting it out and moving? Think Again!
The way loans used to work don't work that way. That's what I did back in 2001 or so when the market in Utah was depreciating. I just moved out of my home, leased it out and bought a new one.
FannieMae changed their rules though. Cant do that anymore. Why the change? There was something mysterious going on with many buyers this past year. They were upside down in their home, so they moved out, bought a home and left their home behind them. So FNMA changed the rules.
Heres the new rules:
If you move out of your current home and into another, you have to qualify for both payments. (Old days they would let you count the rent..but not anymore.
Not only would you have to qualify for both payments but you would also have to have 6 months of payments in a checking account for reserves for both properties.
The only exception to this rule is if you have 30% equity in the property. Than, they will be more lenient on your reserves and allow rental credit for income.
You can view the rules by clicking here.
To evaluate what you can do with your property go to UtahDave.com and fill out the form here.
How does a short sale or foreclosure affect me and my credit?
That is the question that many people are asking. Times are statistically tough for many during this recession and people want to know what their options are and what they need to do. Im not a lawyer but this is what I am seeing in the loan world and in the credit arena.
My rule of thumb is always the following when it comes to making payments:
1. Always make your payments and fulfill your obligations.
2. If things are tough and there is no way out, call your lender BEFORE things are bad and before late payments are made. Always call your lender if you are going to be late. This is the same rule with landlords and tenants. The tenants that call the landlord and tell them things are going to be rough establish trust. The tenants that avoid the landlords calls develop no trust.
(Dont avoid your lender calling you. They can and may work with you during tough times. It may be embarrasing or something that one would rather hope goes away...but talk to your lender.)
3. Call a Realtor - One that specializes in short sales. Hopefully one that is very good before foreclosure comes. (We receive many referrals from Realtors that know how tough a short sale is and they send us their business because its a sale that only certain people can negotiate with the bank. We even help Realtors with their short sales.)
Here are the options and how it relates to you. Now Remember, if it is an investment property there may be tax consequences. Consult your accountant regarding this.
1. Foreclosure - In a nutshell, you could be sued, have a judgement against you for the difference, and unable to buy and own a home for 5 years.
When a foreclosure happens this hurts your credit very badly. Judgements for the deficiency can be placed on you for up to 20 years. Again consult your attorney regarding this. Im a Realtor, not an attorney. Credit is the worst it can get.
We have a friend that waited too long to sell their home as a short sale. He just received a letter in the mail sueing him for over $100,000 for the difference on the home.
2. Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure - Basically the same thing as above, however, you may be able to negotiate to not have a judgement against you. Still cant buy a home for 5 years.
3. Short Sale due to not making payments. - Earliest to buy a home..2 years.
In most cases the bank will forgive you of any money you owe them. You walk away from the property having "Settled" with the bank.
Not making payments causes the severity of the credit damage. When payments are being made, credit goes down the toilet really fast.
4. Short Sale while keeping your payments current. - Earliest to buy a home..2 years with LITTLE CREDIT DAMAGE!
The bank forgives you of your debt. You walk away from the home. You dont pay anything out of your pocket.
There are people reporting anywhere around a 50 point drop in fico scores immediately after this type of short sale. There are people reporting their scores dropping from 800 to 750 or from 715 to 680.
What options do you have with your current home and scenario? For a free evaluation find out online here.
View Fannie Mae Rules here with terms of buying a home after Short Sale and Foreclosure.
You have seen the headlines "Why Pay 6%? Save $2,000 to $4,000!"
Did you really end up saving? Lets take a look at a couple scenarios.
Sometimes its tough to really know, many times you will never know. Why? Because there rarely is the exact same home for sale at the exact same time as each other listed with different brokerages. But we found some for you to look at. These two homes were on the market at the exact same time and were considered competition as they were exact comparables.

EXAMPLE A:
This home was listed with a discount brokerage, and 2 different nation wide traditional brokerages.
Time on market: 470 Days
Net to seller after paid closing costs: $206,200

EXAMPLE B:
This home was listed with a Discount Brokerage for 6 months before we took it over.
Utah Dave Sold within 120 days
Net To Seller: $295,000
These two homes were exact comparables. These two homes had the same finishes and should have sold for relatively the same price and within the same timeframe.
The seller A and B first tried to utilize discount services. But look to what happened to SELLER A! Seller A lost $90,000.
The seller could say to their neighbor, "I saved $2,000 on commissions when I sold my house." But what he really doesnt know is that he lost $90,000 in trying to save on commissions.
Is this a one time deal? No, it isnt. I will be uploading about a dozen of these that I have found.
CONCLUSION: What do we learn from it?
The Biggest Mistake Sellers make is when they pick an agent based on commissions or based on the price of their home the agent thinks it will sell for If you pick an agent based on commissions, it could cost you not save you. Pick an agent based on the agent's results, not cost. How do you know what their results are? Try asking them for a list of homes that they have sold and show comparables that they outsold. If they are results oriented, you will get the list! Heres a list for you regarding our sales.
More Case Studies: What do we mean by Traditional or Nationwide Brokerage? Many of these homes that were being sold were listed with a Coldwell Banker/ReMax/Exit/Century 21 or discount brokerage type. These case studies use comparisons of homes that are almost exactly alike. Prices and timeline to sell should be equal if you base it on the home. Most people believe their home is better than everyone elses. Most people believe their home will sell for a certain price no matter who helps them. Some people believe that the MLS System sells 90% of the homes. Well if the MLS were to sell the homes, why would certain agent's listings take longer to sell? Why do certain agent's listings not sell? Why do certain agent's listings take longer? Take a look at these case studies and see for yourself that it matters who lists your home. People who base choosing an agent off of commission or choose an agent based off them being someone they know or based off of a promise of a quick sell at a certain price end up losing in each of these scenarios. How do you choose your agent? Hopefully, its off of the agent's results.

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 75 Days
Sold net to seller: $294030

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 319 Days
Sold Net to Seller: $293,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 2 days
(A Nationwide brokerage listed for 6 months and could not sell it.)
Net to seller: $290,000

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 275 days
Net to Seller $251,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 4 days
Net to Seller: $410,000
Same Home except this is .17 acre (smaller lot)

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 120 days
Net to Seller: $370,000
This home had a .27 acre lot. (larger lot)

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 44 Days
Net to Seller: $285,000
(This home backed a busy main road.)
2200 sq ft with a 2 car

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 1.5 years
Net to Seller: $245,000
This home was in the same neighborhood but newer, 2800 sq ft and a 3 car garage.

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 1 day
Net to Seller: $327,750
Condition: Fixxer Upper, Poor condition.

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on market: 529 Days!
STILL HASNT SOLD Listed at $325,000
Totally Remodeled with a 5 car garage.
(These people listed with another brokerage because the other brokerage promised them a higher price and a lower commission than us.)

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 3 Months
Net to Seller: $290,000

Traditional Brokerage Sold:
Time on Market: 464 Days
Net to Seller: $249,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 4 days
(Previous Nationwide Brokerage listed for 6 months and could not sell.)
Net to Seller: $224,000

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 240 Days
Net to Seller: $219,200
This home also had a partially finished basement that the other didnt.

Another Traditional Brokerage Sold:
Time on Market: 4 months
Net to Seller: $210,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 21 days
Net to Seller: $255,000

Traditional Brokerage Sold:
Time on Market: 171 Days
Net to Seller: $243,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 74 Days
Net to Seller: $259,600

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 180 Days
Net to Seller: $236,000

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 61 Days
Sold at $255,000

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 150 Days.
NEVER SOLD at $250,000
(Had $30,000 in upgrades too!)

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 1 Week
Sold $375,000
Invested $15,000 to finish basement.
Total sq ft 4653

Traditional Brokerage Sold:
Time on Market: 447 Days
Sold: $330,000
Sq ft at 4955

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Sold in 28 Days
Price: $499,000
4200 sq ft fully finished

Traditional Brokerage:
Time on Market: 2 years!
STILL HASNT SOLD Listed at: $449,000
4966 sq ft Fully Finished

UTAH DAVE SOLD:
Time on Market: 1.5 Months
Sold for $255,000
Basement was unfinished.
(Previous Discount Brokerage attempted to sell for 3 months)

Traditional Brokerage Sold:
Time on Market: 6 months!
Sold for $240,000 (They also fully finished their basement)
On market the same time but estimated losses on this is $30,000. Looks like even if they paid twice the amount of commission they would have saved more money.
Utah Housing Market Update for 2009
Current Situation...and the CRYSTAL BALL for the future
A week ago we were talking in our office about demand. We have been watching 'pending' home sales decline and decline. This is typical during this time of year. Generally 1rst quarter after 4th quarter is where it bottoms out. So we thought, when was the last time home sales have been this low? We can't find data that goes back that far. We speculated it must be as far back as the 1980's. It also seems like the demand should be there to buy homes, but where are the buyers? We speculated as well that the demand is there and that it would arise soon. Im not an economist (Im a salesperson, I sell real estate not analyze numbers, we are diffrent breeds) and I dont have the data they do, so I looked forward to hearing what these specialists had to say. Today I had the opportunity of meeting with Wells Fargo Senior Economist Kelly Matthews, the U of U's department heads, and the National Association of Realtors Regional Economist. All of these people shed some great insight on our thoughts and to what is happening. Most of these men's charts and predictions were very similiar. They shed some great light on certain aspects of the economy. Here is the nutshell.
Unemployment/Employment in Utah:
Utah has been losing jobs. Our low unemployment rate according to Wells Fargo Kelly Matthews was 2.7% in 2007. In 2005 before the real estate boom Utah was at 4.3%. Kelly's prediction for first half of 2009 is 4.5%. That is taking us back. We are still well below the national average!
New Construction
Single family Building permits in 2005 according to Kelly Matthews was at 20,912. Now watch this drop and fall out of the sky. 2006 was 19,888 and 2007 was 13,507. The sky is falling number for 2008? Almost 6,000. His prediction for first half of 2009 is 2790. James Wood at the U of U also had similiar numbers.
What is his prediction for new construction? Its a continued shake out till 2010.
What do I see out there happening? There are so many new homes and neighborhoods that are in foreclosure right now. There is also a forced liquidation happening. Im seeing many banks forced to sell their inventory at lower prices to clean their books and get some cash back in the bank. Im also seeing some builders and developers in a cash crunch that are forced to liquidate their lots at pre 2005 pricing. This is very good news. Land is now becoming very affordable once again. Now, this doesnt mean go buy anything. We know where the good deals are and what you can sell them for. There are bad deals and great deals alike out there.
The Good News for those who have Home Equity or Credit Cards tied to Prime.
During 2005 to 2007 Prime was 7.25 to 8.25. Right now Prime has been around 4%. The prediction for first half of 2009 for Prime according to Kelly is 3.5%. The news yesterday announced this just recently hit 3.25%! People are able to save money with the rate dropping in half!
What about Foreclosures?
James Wood also showed us some charts of foreclosure rates. When we looked at the past foreclosure rates typically it peaked out at about 3% whenever we had recessions. Right now our current foreclosure rate is at 1.5%. This data means that we can probably look to having about 3500 homes foreclosed arrive on the market for sale during the next year or two.
What about Housing Affordability in Utah?
Kelly Matthews a year ago predicted the Utah market. He said prices will fall, they have to fall in order for us to have affordability. He stated that we needed appx 20% price decline. If you look at the numbers we had 10% price decline. In the coming months you will see numbers even lower than that once data is gathered. Interest rates are low though. Typically one point drop in interest rates means 10% price affordability. Kelly thinks we are very close if not there for housing affordability once again.
According to our experience in making offers, we are seeing homes have multiple offers in many instances where the homes prices make it very affordable to buy. The buyers are there, but they are cautious to what they are going to buy. It must be priced right.
When is the bottom?
Sell high, buy low is everyone's motto right? Can you effectively predict the bottom? Maybe. You need to remember though that real estate is local. So for instance, the bottom depends on the area. Example: Washington D.C. rarely has any foreclosures, but as you move outward into the suburbs foreclosures start to skyrocket. What does this tell you? That certain areas and neighborhoods will hold value. So predicting the bottom can't be done with nationwide statistics or statewide statistics. Also, you have to take into consideration your negotiating skills, the current distress of the property owner, your efficiency at evaluating properties, and how many buyers are looking at the property. Just because you bought a home at the bottom doesnt mean you got the bottom price. I have met many people who paid top price at the bottom of the market. They didnt make anything. I also know people who bought bottom prices but it wasnt near the bottom of the market.
What does this all tell us? That buying at the bottom isnt as important as buying bottom prices according to the neighborhood and area that you are buying in. Now if you were to predict the bottom of the market I would predict 1rst quarter of 2009 but no later than 1rst quarter of 2010. How will we know which one it is? The Numbers for 2nd quarter this year probably will tell us. Stay tuned come July 2009. But by than you might have missed the bottom. But that doesnt matter right? What matters is you get bottom pricing! This past few months have been amazing at getting awesome deals. This year will be awesome as well!
Where are the buyers and the demand?
Our population grows at 2% currently. We have potential buyers that need homes. They are either living with parents, friends, or saving up for a down payment due to most 100% financing loans disappearing. These buyers will come out of the woodworks. Between saving for a down payment and waiting for consumer confidence to rise these buyers are in hiding. These buyers cant stay where they are at for long. They need housing and will be out looking for it. Once the consumer confidence picks up you will see everyone starting to buy. By than though, the bottom has passed. I remember so many people in 2005 that were so upset they didnt buy a year earlier. It sneaks up on you.
Conclusion, according to all these men?
2009 is the bottom, things will start to improve in 2010. This year we will see record amounts of foreclosures on the market. We will also start to see all the buyers in hiding starting to come out of their shells especially by 2010. Our population has to grow. It would be like a 5 year old still wearing 2 year olds shoe. We have to get new shoes. Our economy is very different where our own population feeds our growth. Interest rates could be at lows not seen since the 1960's. Homes are very affordable and people can actually buy homes under what they would normally appraise for. There are 100% financing programs still and even grant money to buy a home up to $22,500 from the government. All of this is happening right now as we speak. That is exactly why I am having a record month in sales this month. With all the bad news, good things are actually happening!
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