“World's Most Complete Neighborpedia”
Explore:   What's happening in your neck of the woods?

About Dallas' Lower Greenville

5609 Lindell Avenue and 5613 Lindell Avenue Townhomes in Dallas, TX 75206

04-15-10
Bruce Lynn
Bruce Lynn: Real Estate Agent in Coppell, TX

I recently stumbled upon this small townhome development in the Lower Greenville area of Dallas.  This are 5609 Lindell Avenue and 5613 Lindell Avenue.

  452246379545224637954522463283452309665845224619734522461231

These are two buildings of 5 units each with a shared gated drive between the two buildings.  There are apparantly two different floorplans in each building.  Units 1,3, and 5 have one floorplan with units 2 and 4 having a slightly different layout.  The buildings are not mirror images of each other, but a flip of the plans.  Each of the townhomes has two bedrooms and two or two and 1/2 bathrooms and a two car garage.   The layout has of course the garage on the ground floor, as well as the laundry, and a small tiled room as the interior entry from the garage that is great for bike and toy storage, a small office, or just a great mud or storage room.  The second floor for units 1-3-5 has living, dining, one bedroom and a full bath with a large master on the third floor.  Units 2-4 have a larger open kitchen, dining, living room and a 1/2 bath on the second floor, with both bedrooms and two full baths on the third level.  All homes have spiral staircases from one of the third floor bedrooms to the roof.  At this point there are no cool party decks built, but several of the neighboring buildings have some fairly imaginative and elaborate setups on the rooftops, so I can only imagine these for the future in this development.

Interestingly enough these two buildings appear to have been completed in 2006 and 2007, but never sold to individual owners or occupied before the Spring of 2010.  They were part of a rash of develpment of similar type townhome communities built in this area during the rush.  Initial offer prices were around $250,000 with HOA dues just under $200/month.  After having gone through several different realtors, marketing plans, and perhaps a foreclosure of the entire project we now see a new owner in 2010 and a new pricing and occupancy strategy.  List prices in early 2010 are now just around or below $200,000 and they are also being offered for lease in the $1650/month range.   None of the floorplans have private yards or direct access to grassy areas, so if you are a pet owner looking for a townhome with yards these may not have the ideal setup for you.  As with most townhome communities I see, the HOA typically allow for a maximum of one pet per home.  The current owner group seem motivated to complete FHA financing approval for the project and finish up any of the outstanding punch items to get these homes occupied.

To search the currently availability of the homes for sale or lease in this development just follow the links below:

Search homes for sale at 5609 Lindell Avenue, Dallas, TX 75206

Search homes for sale at 5613 Lindell Avenue, Dallas, TX 75206

Search homes for lease at 5609 Lindell Avenue, Dallas, TX 75206

Search homes for lease at 5613 Lindell Avenue, Dallas, TX 75206

Just give us a call at 214-675-6992 if you would like to see any of these homes or send us an email at rb@teamlynn.com for more information.

To search all townhomes for sale or lease in the Lower Greenville and East Dallas area just follow the links below.

Search Townhomes for Sale in East Dallas (generally East of 75/Central-West of Buckner-South of NW Hwy-North of I30)

Search Townhomes for Lease in East Dallas (generally East of 75/Central-West of Buckner-South of NW Hwy-North of I30)

If you would like to search in other areas, just give us a call and we can set up specific searches that meet your needs including single family, townhomes, condos, and many other areas of the DFW Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex.

There are a lot of great reasons to live in this area.   One is the proximity to downtown Dallas, the Arts District, and White Rock Lake.  There are also lots of great restaurants and bars in this area.  Greenville Avenue is just a few blocks away and has been the center of Dallas nightlife for years.   This area is also close to Deep Ellum which also has some great nightlife.   Many of the trendy bars and restaurants are located not far away on Henderson or Knox.   These includes such venues as Adelmo's Italian on Cole, Cuba Libre, Tei Tei Robata, Fireside Pies, and Old Monk on Henderson. 

body {font-family:helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;} a.stbar.chicklet img {border:0;height:16px;width:16px;margin-right:3px;vertical-align:middle;} a.stbar.chicklet {height:16px;line-height:16px;}

Dodie's Seafood Cajun Diner: A Winning Recipe!

Steve Shatsky - Dallas Real Estate & Short Sale Specialist (214)213-0340: Real Estate Agent in Dallas, TX

Coaster

Did you ever eat at a little "hole in the wall" type of restaurant and fall in love with their food? You kept going back for years and years and eventually when you are not paying attention, they become a chain?

Well that's what happened to me and my love affair with Dodie's Seafood Cajun Diner.

I was first introduced to Dodie's back in 1991 when I first moved to Dallas. My cousin Abby and I used to go to their first location at 2129 Greenville Avenue, a few blocks away from Abby's house at the time, and chow down on some very authentic Louisiana style Po Boys. The food was always good and the beer was always cold... that makes for a winning combination in my book.

Over the past 18 years, Dodie's has been a regular on my eating circuit. It became even more convenient for me when my office moved just 3 blocks away a couple of years ago. Somehow I never noticed that the place I have come to love for a good Po Boy, a fried soft shell crab plate or some fried shrimp has opened several additional locations in Addison, Rockwall, McKinney, Carrollton, and Allen.

There is nothing fancy or pretentious about Dodie's... just good food and a good time for a reasonable price. And that must be a recipe for success because they haven't strayed from it in 1989. Go and try it out... but be careful not to blink or they may go from 6 to 12 locations when you're eyes are closed!

Struggles of Victory Park contrasted are with lively and authentic neighborhood on Henderson Avenue in Est Dallas

02-04-09
Elizabeth Ho
Elizabeth Ho: Real Estate Sales Person in Dallas, TX

The Dallas Observer publishes a great article on teh tale of two different neigborhoods. CHeck out

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2009-01-29/news/empty-victory/1

or see below:

Dallas' Victory Park Struggles to Deliver a Win

Blame it on a bad economy, a bad idea or both. Ross Perot Jr.'s glitzy downtown district is in big trouble

By Matt Pulle

Published on January 28, 2009 at 2:19pm

In October 2007, Dallas businessman Ross Perot Jr. was featured in a USA Today story about the unlikely rise of urban living in Texas. Photographed on the balcony of the towering Ghostbar, at the apex of the posh W Hotel, Perot looked confident as he discussed why developments such as his Victory Park-a $1 billion glimmering collection of high-rises, pricey restaurants and shops jutting from the American Airlines Center-were the Next Big Thing.

Details:


Web extra: More photos from around Victory Park.

Subject(s):

Victory Park, Ross Perot Jr., Tom Hicks, American airlines Center, Hillwood, West Village

"You can move into a beautiful downtown home, walk to the arts, walk to a basketball game, walk to restaurants," Perot said. "There is something unique in the downtown fabric that you couldn't get in the suburbs."

Only these days, at his Victory Park development, that fabric isn't getting much wear.

On a Saturday in January, a little after midnight, there are only a few people milling about Perot's district. Most of them are headed to the Ghostbar, one of the few places that hasn't shut down for the night. At the AT&T Plaza, the heart of Victory Park that fronts the southern edge of AAC, two mammoth super screens blare a series of artsy images to a crowd of, well, no one. Billed as "one of the largest outdoor digital mediums in the world," the screens were supposed to be a landmark attraction in the glamorous development. Now they just seem a once-coveted Christmas gift tossed awkwardly aside.

In startling contrast, a few miles across town, in the cozy, older North Henderson Avenue neighborhood just off North Central Expressway, there remains a veritable parade of nightlife. Many of the men are dressed in snug jeans and untucked shirts; the women are mostly clad in denim and tight-fitting blouses. All of them, as if it were a law, are fashionably thin. On both sides of Henderson, running nearly a mile toward Ross Avenue, people crowd the sidewalks and spill into the streets, enhancing the authentic neighborhood feel of the area's blend of homespun hangouts and high-priced restaurants.

While Victory Park, the well-hyped, taxpayer-funded district, can't buy a crowd, North Henderson has gained immense popularity as if by accident. The same tale of two developments can be told about Victory Park and the West Village. On a Tuesday lunch hour in January, there is barely a soul wandering through Victory Park Lane, the boulevard that runs through the heart of the district. Meanwhile, at the always-bustling West Village in Uptown, parking is hard to find-as is an empty table at Taco Diner.

More than a decade earlier, Perot named his project "Victory," which seemed a reflection of his epic ambitions, as if the gods themselves had predetermined its success. He didn't want to open another Cheesecake Factory or an Old Navy in the shadow of a new, publicly funded arena. He wanted an upscale, one-of-a-kind retail and residential district, one that would surprise and titillate. His would be a destination district that the right kind of people would seek out.

Perot didn't apologize for his pretensions. Interviewed by the Wall Street Journal Online in an October 2006 story about the kind of crowd he wanted to frequent the American Airlines Center, he said, "A U2 concert is fabulous. KISS, not so good."

But now, nearly three years after its first shops opened, Victory Park still hasn't found itself. Even before the economy went south, the district often turned into a ghost town when the arena was dark. Ritzy retailers have fled, while other businesses are struggling to hang on. Hillwood, the Perot real estate firm that runs the development, still has big ambitions for its development but recently postponed plans to build a second luxury hotel and now hopes to shed Victory's exclusive image by leasing to more affordable shops and restaurants. The KISS crowd, or any crowd, is now welcome.

"I don't think they spent this kind of money thinking it was going to be this quiet," says Mike Malin, an owner of the parent company that owns the Board Room sports bar in Victory Park. "I think Hillwood put together an impressive mix of nightlife and restaurants, and they expected the community to embrace it more."

It's an unlikely turn of events for a master-planned, 75-acre district that had everything going for it: A rich developer, a prime location, ultra-modern architecture and those towering screens reminiscent of Times Square. On top of those amenities, the AAC is home to the Dallas Mavericks, the Dallas Stars and nearly every musical act popular enough to sell out its 12,500-seat concert capacity.

But Victory Park is still trying to secure its place in the city. On special occasions, like New Year's Eve, when the plaza teems with an electric crowd, the district feels like a public square, a space for collective celebration. No other part of Dallas-not even a resurging downtown core-holds that promise. But at other times, the district seems like a flop-an ill-conceived, sterile mega-development that is as predictable as a shopping mall.

Perot's project doesn't seem like a sure thing anymore. It didn't help that Hillwood bungled the debut, opening with too few stores, and all of them pricey. Or that Victory Park is a destination location that is difficult to find and has innate design flaws that seem to steer foot traffic away from its retailers rather than toward them. And then there's the economy, which continues to sour and decimate high-end retail.

People, particularly the young and the beautiful, are as finicky as they are fickle. Maybe they just like to stumble upon their own haunts rather than fall for a district that was gift-wrapped for them.

•·

•·

Details:


Web extra: More photos from around Victory Park.

Subject(s):

Victory Park, Ross Perot Jr., Tom Hicks, American airlines Center, Hillwood, West Village

"There's the famous line: 'Build it and they will come,'" says Patrick Colombo, the president of Restaurant Works, which operates the Victory Tavern City Grille. "I think that's what Hillwood expected. I think the original leasing team thought they'd set the world on fire."

----

In November, Lifestyle Fashion Terminal (LFT), an über-trendy clothing store at Victory Park, closed its doors after a 20-month run. In a press release, the owner blamed the down economy and the district's "yet-to-mature trade area."

In many ways, LFT was the embodiment of Perot's original vision. At 30,000 square feet with cold, concrete floors, the place had an edgy, mechanized feel that fit right in with the district's hyper-modern look. In its annual "Best of Dallas" issue, the Dallas Observer saluted the retailer for catering to "serious fashionistas," who were advised to "rethink those plans to make a binge shopping trip to New York and drop the airfare on a spree at LFT."

LFT's demise came just weeks after Nove Italiano, a restaurant with a prime spot in the plaza next to the AAC, announced it was leaving. Before that, Hillwood said it was halting plans to build the 43-story Mandarin Hotel, which, like the W Hotel across the street, was set to include condominiums. Meanwhile, the AFI Film Festival moved its box office to NorthPark, and Noka Chocolate, a high-end Victory Park chocolatier, moved to the upscale mall as well.

Other retailers seem to be barely hanging on. Unlike the district's restaurateurs, they don't see a bump in business on game or event nights. And during lunch hour, Victory Park's shops are often empty; at G Star Raw, a clothing store featuring $180 jeans and $125 wind breakers, a friendly clerk seems surprised when a visitor walks in.

"My personal opinion-and I don't know this for a fact-is that [many retailers] are going to go the way of LFT," Colombo says. "There are so many good shopping centers in Dallas they are competing with."

The recurring complaint you hear about Victory Park-and it comes so often it might as well be etched into center ice at a Stars game-is that the district offers very few low-priced shops and restaurants. Unlike the West Village, which blends high-end retail with affordable places like the Gap and the TomTom Asian Grill, Victory Park doesn't give you the choice of buying an $8 lunch or a $40 pair of jeans. Everything is expensive. If Victory Park did offer low-end retail, the pricier shops might benefit too.

"More and more people are doing high-low dressing where you combine something you bought at an expensive store and something at Target," says Holly Jefferson, a local fashion writer. "At NorthPark you can go to Neiman's or Nordstrom's and then Forever 21 to balance it out, but at Victory, you don't have that option."

The president of Cityplace, Neal Sleeper, who has developed property around the West Village, admits he was initially envious that Victory Park had an anchor tenant like the AAC. That's a guaranteed crowd of around 15,000 people for at least half the year, he figured. But then he realized that it would be difficult to find retailers that could complement an arena. And at Victory Park, the initial dining and shopping offerings seemed too expensive and out of context to appeal to a person who was already emptying his wallet at a basketball game.

"I'm not sure that many people say, 'I'm going to go to a Mavericks game, and say, while I'm down there, I'm going to buy a suit,'" Sleeper explains. "I think [Hillwood's] on the right track by adding some more affordable restaurant and retail options."

To any urban mixed-use district (an area that combines shopping, dining and housing), the vital element is foot traffic. Even if people don't buy a beer, they can add to the energy and bustle of an area, giving off a hospitable feel that makes people want to stay and play. Besides, impulse buys can be a significant chunk of any retailer's bottom line, but not if the area lacks the kind of density that will offer a crowd fleeing a game more reasons to remain.

The original design for the project included developing both sides of Victory Park Lane. But Hillwood put that plan on hold when it postponed construction of the Mandarin Hotel. So now, one side has all the shops and restaurants, while the other is largely reserved for parking lots. That creates a disjointed look and makes Victory Park less pedestrian-friendly.

"The plan was to have both sides of the street filled with stores," says David Levine, who has worked as a consultant on Victory Park. "You can't have a single loaded street; you don't create the synergy of people crossing the street."

It appears that Victory Park didn't follow the fundamentals of mixed-use projects by opening with so few tenants. Levine, who now is a partner in Urban Partners which owns and leases West Village, says viable urban districts need to have at least 50 shops to create a sense of place. West Village has more than 70 different shops and restaurants and has plans for around 30 more as it expands toward Central Expressway. But Victory Park, nearly three years after its launch, has fewer than 30-and opened with far fewer than that.

People, particularly the young and the beautiful, are as finicky as they are fickle. Maybe they just like to stumble upon their own haunts rather than fall for a district that was gift-wrapped for them.

•·

•·

Details:


Web extra: More photos from around Victory Park.

Subject(s):

Victory Park, Ross Perot Jr., Tom Hicks, American airlines Center, Hillwood, West Village

"There's the famous line: 'Build it and they will come,'" says Patrick Colombo, the president of Restaurant Works, which operates the Victory Tavern City Grille. "I think that's what Hillwood expected. I think the original leasing team thought they'd set the world on fire."

----

In November, Lifestyle Fashion Terminal (LFT), an über-trendy clothing store at Victory Park, closed its doors after a 20-month run. In a press release, the owner blamed the down economy and the district's "yet-to-mature trade area."

In many ways, LFT was the embodiment of Perot's original vision. At 30,000 square feet with cold, concrete floors, the place had an edgy, mechanized feel that fit right in with the district's hyper-modern look. In its annual "Best of Dallas" issue, the Dallas Observer saluted the retailer for catering to "serious fashionistas," who were advised to "rethink those plans to make a binge shopping trip to New York and drop the airfare on a spree at LFT."

LFT's demise came just weeks after Nove Italiano, a restaurant with a prime spot in the plaza next to the AAC, announced it was leaving. Before that, Hillwood said it was halting plans to build the 43-story Mandarin Hotel, which, like the W Hotel across the street, was set to include condominiums. Meanwhile, the AFI Film Festival moved its box office to NorthPark, and Noka Chocolate, a high-end Victory Park chocolatier, moved to the upscale mall as well.

Other retailers seem to be barely hanging on. Unlike the district's restaurateurs, they don't see a bump in business on game or event nights. And during lunch hour, Victory Park's shops are often empty; at G Star Raw, a clothing store featuring $180 jeans and $125 wind breakers, a friendly clerk seems surprised when a visitor walks in.

"My personal opinion-and I don't know this for a fact-is that [many retailers] are going to go the way of LFT," Colombo says. "There are so many good shopping centers in Dallas they are competing with."

The recurring complaint you hear about Victory Park-and it comes so often it might as well be etched into center ice at a Stars game-is that the district offers very few low-priced shops and restaurants. Unlike the West Village, which blends high-end retail with affordable places like the Gap and the TomTom Asian Grill, Victory Park doesn't give you the choice of buying an $8 lunch or a $40 pair of jeans. Everything is expensive. If Victory Park did offer low-end retail, the pricier shops might benefit too.

"More and more people are doing high-low dressing where you combine something you bought at an expensive store and something at Target," says Holly Jefferson, a local fashion writer. "At NorthPark you can go to Neiman's or Nordstrom's and then Forever 21 to balance it out, but at Victory, you don't have that option."

The president of Cityplace, Neal Sleeper, who has developed property around the West Village, admits he was initially envious that Victory Park had an anchor tenant like the AAC. That's a guaranteed crowd of around 15,000 people for at least half the year, he figured. But then he realized that it would be difficult to find retailers that could complement an arena. And at Victory Park, the initial dining and shopping offerings seemed too expensive and out of context to appeal to a person who was already emptying his wallet at a basketball game.

"I'm not sure that many people say, 'I'm going to go to a Mavericks game, and say, while I'm down there, I'm going to buy a suit,'" Sleeper explains. "I think [Hillwood's] on the right track by adding some more affordable restaurant and retail options."

To any urban mixed-use district (an area that combines shopping, dining and housing), the vital element is foot traffic. Even if people don't buy a beer, they can add to the energy and bustle of an area, giving off a hospitable feel that makes people want to stay and play. Besides, impulse buys can be a significant chunk of any retailer's bottom line, but not if the area lacks the kind of density that will offer a crowd fleeing a game more reasons to remain.

The original design for the project included developing both sides of Victory Park Lane. But Hillwood put that plan on hold when it postponed construction of the Mandarin Hotel. So now, one side has all the shops and restaurants, while the other is largely reserved for parking lots. That creates a disjointed look and makes Victory Park less pedestrian-friendly.

"The plan was to have both sides of the street filled with stores," says David Levine, who has worked as a consultant on Victory Park. "You can't have a single loaded street; you don't create the synergy of people crossing the street."

It appears that Victory Park didn't follow the fundamentals of mixed-use projects by opening with so few tenants. Levine, who now is a partner in Urban Partners which owns and leases West Village, says viable urban districts need to have at least 50 shops to create a sense of place. West Village has more than 70 different shops and restaurants and has plans for around 30 more as it expands toward Central Expressway. But Victory Park, nearly three years after its launch, has fewer than 30-and opened with far fewer than that.

In 1998, in a referendum that made the recent Trinity tollroad contest look like a fraternity election, Dallas voters narrowly voted to finance $140 million of the cost of the new arena, more than half the project's price tag. At the time, Perot owned the Dallas Mavericks, who along with Dallas Stars, were to be the two main tenants of the facility. Both Perot and Dallas businessman Tom Hicks, who owned the Stars, wound up selling the naming rights of the new arena to American Airlines for $150 million dollars. Now that same arena serves as the main drawing card for Victory Park, a nifty bit of positioning that few businessmen could have wrangled.

•·

•·

Details:


Web extra: More photos from around Victory Park.

Subject(s):

Victory Park, Ross Perot Jr., Tom Hicks, American airlines Center, Hillwood, West Village

Shortly after passage of the arena package, the Dallas City Council voted to hand Perot and Hicks another $25 million to help develop the abandoned property around the arena. The council also created a special financing district for Victory Park that basically redirects the property taxes that Hillwood pays on the project back to the project itself. In other words, while the property taxes paid by most developers go into the general fund to, say, hire police officers and fill up potholes, Victory's taxes finance its own infrastructure costs like road improvements and street lights. This special arrangement, which is limited only to Hillwood-owned or controlled properties, continues until 2012.

City officials are protective of Victory Park. Typically, before they even discuss the district's struggles, they will point out that Victory Park sits on a site formerly occupied by an old railyard and rickety power plant. After Hillwood carted away the contaminated soil, the Environmental Protection Agency designated the site "the nation's largest brownfield cleanup."

Karl Zavitkovsky, the director of the economic development for the city of Dallas, notes the stark improvement. "It was a blighted area and one of the most polluted areas of the city," he says. "They completely transformed it."

The city's annual report on the arena and Victory Park project suggests that city's incentives spurred nearly $1 billion in development from Victory, greatly adding to the taxable value of the once toxic site. As a result, Dallas will more than recoup the tax dollars it redirected into the project, the report concludes.

But other businesses have financed projects in the area without any help from the city. Harwood International, a Dallas-based developer, built Azure, a 31-story luxury condominium tower, in the shadow of Victory Park. The city didn't give Harwood a dime to construct Azure, which now has to compete for buyers with Victory Park.

"Everything around Uptown and Oak Lawn was already booming," says Sharon Boyd, who led the campaign against the arena. "Ross Perot Jr. knew that. That's why he wanted that land."

David Levine, the former Victory Park consultant, thinks that Perot and Hillwood need even more support from the city to make Victory Park work. Merchants on Main Street, for example, receive rent subsidies from Downtown Dallas, a nonprofit booster group that has been funded by the city. The partnership, which only focuses on the traditional downtown core, needs to expand its boundaries and give Victory Park a hand too, he says. "[Perot's] vision will be realized in time as Hillwood refines its strategy and enlists public support."

The North Henderson neighborhood, however, receives no tax advantages from the city. If Victory's every move seems to be choreographed in a corporate boardroom, the North Henderson neighborhood has an offbeat, spontaneous vibe.

Marc Andres, whose family-run company, Andres Properties, controls a good swath of Henderson Avenue, confirms the obvious. His businesses are thriving, and over the last three years, only one restaurant out of the 30 or so in the area has closed.

"You definitely have the feeling that you're in an established neighborhood," he says about why people come to Henderson. "The sense of place is critical; it's not fabricated. We didn't build a new building and make it look old; these are 100-year-old buildings."

Victory Park, on the other hand, looks monumental and can feel overwhelming; as designed, it can't compete with the cozy neighborhood cool of Henderson Avenue or the upscale hip of West Village.

Levine, who has worked on urban projects all over the country, says he has learned a bit about development by working on a project with director George Lucas. "He told me that the key is to make it look like it's not all planned; the key is to make things look and feel real."

----

It's a warm Tuesday eveningin January in Ross Perot's district, a little after 8 p.m., but if you didn't know better you'd think ice storm warnings had kept people at home. At nearly every restaurant, the waitstaff seems to outnumber the patrons. At N9NE, the hostess says the kitchen closes at a different time each night, depending on traffic. Tonight, that's 8:15.

This is a trying evening for Victory Park, and it underscores its greatest challenge: How does it survive without a game to rely on? Tonight, like nearly 15 other days this month, there is no event at the AAC. Restaurants might draw patrons on a game or concert night, but on other nights, particularly in the summer months, it's a struggle.

"It was tough, and it still is tough," says Patrick Columbo of Victory Tavern. "You have to work really hard for your base revenue."

•·

•·

Details:


Web extra: More photos from around Victory Park.

Subject(s):

Victory Park, Ross Perot Jr., Tom Hicks, American airlines Center, Hillwood, West Village

There are, however, signs of life. The W Hotel doesn't live or die off the arena and has lived past the white-hot buzz that surrounded its opening. According to the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, the Ghostbar earned over $5 million in alcohol sales between November 2007 and October 2008. That's a 22 percent drop from the year before but still an impressive tally. Kenichi also draws its share of customers. The sushi restaurant had its best night ever on New Year's Eve when a gala on the plaza drew an astounding 40,000 revelers following the Stars game.

A crowd of 300 also gathered to watch the inauguration of Barack Obama on the plaza's mega-screens. The diverse group instinctively gravitated to Victory Park that morning, which suddenly seemed transformed into a place for public celebration. On other occasions too, when Victory Park shows a movie or college football game on its 30-foot screens, the plaza is vibrant and relevant, like an ultra-modern town square. These types of ordinary gatherings could become one of the defining features of Victory Park-and may help turn the district around.

"That plaza, right now, has become the de facto public meeting space, whether it's to watch New Year's Eve or the inaugural, and Dallas needed that," says developer Sughrue. "It's important to the city, and Victory set out to do that."

Other establishments are hoping that Victory's new office tenants will create enough synergy to boost their business. Haynes and Boone, one of Dallas' largest law firms, recently moved its offices from downtown to One Victory Park, a handsome new building on the southwest corner of the district. Ernst & Young, the prominent accounting firm, is relocating to Victory Park. Hillwood has also added three new restaurants to the district including a reasonably priced Asian eatery and a pizza place. Meanwhile, the Dallas Museum of Nature and Science is scheduled to break ground this year.

If enough people move into Hillwood's residential properties, Victory Park's businesses can feed off each other, in much the same way a pinball ricochets off metal bars. That would help the district reach "critical mass," a phrase heard in nearly every conversation about the development's viability. The critical mass figure, though, is hard to quantify. No one knows exactly when or if the district will have enough people to become a vibrant, bustling community. It's a tricky, chicken-and-egg dynamic too: People won't come to Victory Park unless more businesses open, but more businesses won't open unless more people come. To some, this is an intractable problem, especially if Hillwood doesn't start leasing out more affordable apartments.

"Unless we design mixed-use districts for people of multiple income levels and we have the critical mass of retail and rooftops, [Victory Park's] doomed to be deserted," says Neil Emmons, a city plan commissioner.

While some developers wonder if Hillwood can turn things around, others think that the district, for all its headaches, is simply too big to fail. Eventually, it will achieve that elusive critical mass of retail, restaurants and residents.

"With each building that opens up, it's going to feel more comfortable and more dense, and it's going to start having that sense of place," Sughrue says. "It's way too early to describe Victory as anything more than a work in progress, but if you step back it's remarkable what they've done over there."

Lower Greenville December 2008 Market Update

Darren Dattalo: Real Estate Agent in Dallas, TX

The Big Picture. Things are pretty good here on Lower Greenville. Despite the dismal economic news, interest rates are good, prices are mostly holding and homes are selling. Even though Dallas saw a 35% decline in home sales in November compared to November 2007, our neighborhood faired well for the most part. Lot purchases continue to be non-existant and new development condos are moving slower than the developers would like, but the mainstay of our area, the older single family homes, are still moving.

Original Homes: Inventory was reduced considerably in Dec. for the older original homes from 107 to 89 bring us down to 7.5 months of inventory. Considerably better than the Dallas average and not too far off from the ideal level of 5 months. The AVERAGE selling point is still $190/ft for these older homes despite falling lots values.

Newer Construction: Still holding about 10 months of inventory overall for new construction. Not too bad. The new builds are being absorbed a little faster than the pre-existing new construction. Several of the builders have lost their spec homes to foreclosure and I suspect these will put price pressure on the remaining spec homes.

Condos/Townhomes: Condos are still struggling in the area. Only one condo sale in December out of 32 units on the market. The biggest concern is the average Days on Market for condos here up to 284 days. Before you reach for your calculator, that's 9.5 months. Oddly enough, there seems to be no slow down in the number of new projects breaking ground.

Lot Values: If there aren't any lots sold in the next couple of months, I'm going to officially declare the market gone. :-) You can count the number of lots sold in the last six months on one hand. Despite the absence of a market here, the average price being asked has inexplicably risen to $28.09/sqft.

And Now for the Numbers:

Total on Market Avg $/sqft DOM Sold In Dec Avg Sold Price Months Inventory

New Construction, Single Family (2006 or later)

31 $179.79 153 4 $745,750 7.75
New Construction Resales (after 1975) 29 $176.33 137 2 $482,595 14.5
Older Single Family (Pre 1975) 89 $190.46 147 12 $331,448 7.4
Condo/Townhome 31 $210.85 284 1 $150,000 31
MultiFamily 15 NA 149 0 NA NA
Lots / Teardowns 13 $28.09 325 0 NA NA

LOWER GREENVILLE DEAL OF THE MONTH**

Home of the Month: 5810 Morningside

This is a classic M-streets Tudor. 4 bedrooms, 2455 sqft completely updated mechanicals and cosmetics. Listed at $398,000, that works out to $162/sqft. The updates in this home are comparable to homes listed over $200/ft. The fatal flaw? No garage. The home does have a Porte Coche and a garage could easily be added. The curb appeal is excellent and neighbors are terrific.

**NOTE: Currently listed by Allie Beth Allman and Associates. This property is not my listing. I do not earn commissions or fees of any kind in return for mentioning this listing.

Lower Greenville Market Update for November 2008

Darren Dattalo: Real Estate Agent in Dallas, TX

WIN SOME, LOSE SOME. October was a pretty tough month for Lower Greenville. At the end of the month there were a lot of homes under contract looking to close in November, so hope remained. The good news is that those homes did in fact close. Not as many as July, but pretty good for a November. On the downside, lot values are not looking good. Could this be a bubble? Stay tuned....

Original Homes: The smaller, original homes are the strongest part of the market here. They comprise the most sales, fetch the highest $/sqft and are generally what people have in mind when they say "I wanna live in Lower Greenville". Inventory dropped from 125 to 107 homes this month and 18 sales were recorded (compared to 11 in Oct.) We have right at 6 months of inventory in this part of the market which is perfectly normal. Compared to other areas and other products, the good old Arts & Crafts bungalow is doing just fine, thank you.

Newer Construction: No change in new construction sales. Three units sold out of 66 on the market. Builders have been lowering prices and are now averaging under $175 per sqft. Resales on new construction are having the hardest time right now. With over 30 homes on the market, only 1 sold in November.

Condos/Townhomes: Tick, tick. Like clockwork, we continue absorbing condos at a pace of 3 per month. This month a few of the higher priced ones sold bringing the average sales price above $350K (as opposed to last month at $115K). Two of the three that sold this month were of the "Single family attached" style. (Most of us call that a townhome or a duplex)

Lot Values: We no longer have a market value for lots. Bold statement, but it is quickly becoming true. Right now, there is not enough information to determine what if any value the land has. Lot values appreciated far more rapidly than home values so a bubble in lot values is not out of the question. There were no lots sold this month, but 13 remain on the market. See my note below regarding the "Deal of the Month" on 5710 Velasco. One year ago, this lot would have sold quickly for $225K. Today, it is listed at $145K and has no takers after two months on the market.

And Now for the Numbers:

Total on Market Avg $/sqft DOM Sold In Sept Avg Sold Price Months Inventory

New Construction, Single Family (2006 or later)

34 $173.65 170 2 $579,450 17
New Construction Resales (after 1975) 32 $181.96 131 1 $510,000 32
Older Single Family (Pre 1975) 107 $183.98 152 18 $339,394 5.9
Condo/Townhome 36 $203.35 260 3 $355,633 12
MultiFamily 15 NA 166 2 $287,250 7.5
Lots / Teardowns 13 $24.63 267 0 NA NA

LOWER GREENVILLE DEALS OF THE MONTH**

Home of the Month: 5947 Marquita

This home is in the M-Streets East Conservation District and is nicely updated. You don't often find an updated 3/2 over 2000 sqft for under $350K in this neighborhood. Plus this one is on a quiet corner lot on a lovely tree-lined street. This street is a favorite for dog walkers in the area.

Lot Deal(s) of the Month: 5710 Velasco & 5436 Miller

5710 Velasco (see story on Lot Values above) has been listed for 60 days at $145K. The home burned several months ago and is not habitable. It could probably be repaired or it could be scraped for a new build. Although this lot is three doors down from Greenville Ave, its a good street with friendly neighbors. At lot value, this would have sold for more than $200K a year ago. At this price, it would be a great investment to warehouse or renovate. Fully renovated that value would be over $300K.

5436 Miller is being auctioned off on Dec 13th, cash only. The home needs repairs and financing is not an option. They are starting the minimum bidding at $99K. Given the slow interest in lots at this time, this could be a real bargain.

**NOTE: These properties are not my listings. I do not earn commissions or fees of any kind on any of these listings.